Work
Womens work
years ago people used to help one another whereas now they go
out to work all day, and dont forget years ago mums never went
out to work all day because they had to be there because the children
all came in from school at lunch time and we had from twelve till
two for lunch every day.
So the mums had to be at home for the dinners, for the children
coming in, so if any women went out to work, they went out very
early in the morning office cleaning. Thats what they did, so
that they came home, then got the kids up ready for school and they
were there all day, so nobody really went out to work, not the mothers
didnt, not years ago, not like they do today.
I cleaned all the private flats at the back of that place for
all the directors of Vickers and Rolls Royce. And I never once
in all that time drew any dole money, and I worked till I was 70
I used to work in the flower market , for a number of years,
but I wasnt that struck on it because I was on permanent nights,
which is fine, but I never got used to it - your body, my body,
I never got used it. Turned up at work and I should be in bed.
Doesnt matter how much sleep you get during the day. Have you ever
tried night work? It drives you nuts. The dawns coming up and
the sun should be going down.
[My mother] had a stall in the Cut here for 13 years. [She sold]
silk stockings. Fully fashioned stockings. Gun metal stockings,
the grey, they used to be very fashionable, and mens socks and
childrens socks. Just where the flats Dorian Ramsey Court, well
they were just opposite that in the road there.
My grandmother lost my grandfather when A. was four and she got
ten shillings widow. So she used to do scrubbing and washing and
delivering babies or laying out somebody whod died. Thats what
she used to do.
Mens work
if you didnt work, you didnt get anything. Thats why people
were always at work. But of course, as my husband used to say,
there was plenty of industry then for the boys when they left school,
they was apprenticeshiped, plumbing, and carpentry, and my husband
was in apprenticeship for engineering. He only used to earn threepence
an hour when he first left school. See, thats what people did,
but these days they dont want to work, do they? I dont think they
do anyway.
Bs dad worked in Covent Garden market. And your uncles, they
were in the flower part, he was in the veg.
As soon as they left school and were able to work they went to
work in the docks and they lived in the docks. Their fathers, their
grandfathers, the whole family worked among ships. I mean Ive worked
among ships practically all my life, even before I went in the Army
I was at Plymouth working amongst ships. And when you worked among
ships you know ships. You miss them.
Men used to go from one warehouse to another and they used to
come up on what they called the stones. And the labour master
at the particular warehouse would go out there in the morning and
theyd have to be there for eight oclock and hed call on the men
who were wanted. Now if you had a ship alongside youd need about
28 men. 14 on shore, 14 maybe in the ship
They used to be sent away sometimes and never get a jobMy dad
used to have wait outside the dock in the 30s. He was a Merchant
Seaman before the First World War and then was called up for the
Army and after that he used to go down the docks and get called
off, or if you didnt get called off you didnt get any work.
Redcross Street was full of dockers. A lot of dockers around
here. Before the war I was there, I had a regular job. After a
while the work was finishing , so I went out on what they call
the labour pool. The men used to, at a quarter to eight, line
up outside any wharf where they looked for a job, and the man they
called the labour master used to come out and pick who he wanted.
The rest walked away. they call it out on the stones The pavement,
or the roadway where you lined till you get a job, thats what we
called the stones. Well, I thought it was good. I like the free
life, and it was free, because I looked for job - I mean, with me
having three children, then you did put yourself out. If the work
was there, you done it.
where Surrey Quays is now the shopping centre, Ive seen men
walking down with timbers on their shoulders and what they used
to use the bounce. The plank underneath them used to [bounce] and
it used to bounce the same as the timber on their shoulder, and
as long as they bounced together it was all right, but when the
bounce went out of rhythm youd probably find him in the river.
This is the sort of thing you got used to seeing, it was a man walking
on the bounce you used to say.
you had cranes swinging over your head and they were big cranes
where the crane driver used to be sat up in the crane itself and
he was like a tanker driver, he knew his business. And they were
so skilled at the jobs I would say they could drop it [the cargo]
on a sixpence.
I done most things. Worked on ships, on the barges, in the warehouse,
I was a crane driver - but I couldnt get used to those big ones
you see down there, couldnt get used to those. It was a lonely
job. I liked company, I like laughing and joking.
as years went on, a National Dock Labour Board was formed and
the dockers became under a union and wed then have to apply to
the National Dock Labour Board and say want so many men this morning
and they would then allocate the labour to you. So youd have to
wait for the labour to arrive. Instead of waiting on the stones
outside it would be sent to you.
. So it became a much easier thing to deal with, because there
was always permanent labour as well. You had what we called the
permanents. Those were the ones that remained with you always
So it was more satisfactory as far as the chaps who used to work
in the docks were concerned because if they became a permanent they
knew they had a job. And so it evolved over the years until of course
in 1974 the docks began to disappear.
There was an abattoir in the Lower Marsh. Past the Action Centre,
you know where the taxis are coming down, well theyd bring the
sheep down there into the butchers abattoir and theyd kill them
there for the shop. [Butchers] used to do their own killing I would
think.
My uncle was a printer. My father was a Covent Garden Market porter
in the morning, which was very dodgey because they had to stand
on the stones, they were just the porters and theyd have to be
picked like they were at the docks. Then to add to the money, my
dad would work in the theatre, a lot of them, and he was a stage
hand, so he knew all the stars.
We had a two-tiered working organisation round here. You had the
manual workers of a lower grade, who was dockers, builders, and
any type of manual work; then you had the elite who was the printers
who worked in the print. just for arguments sake, if you earned
8 a week, they was earning 16, 17, 18 pound a week. It was
a lot of money, and an ordinary manual worker probably have to work
a sixty hour week, six days a week; they was working about four
day week, because they was printers ...
In actual fact you can see the distinction if you walk round the
area because if you lived [in] the Peabodyor the Church Commissioners
[you] would be the manual workers side, but if you used to go across
the other side to Upper Street and Mitre Road, a lot of thems the
printers typewell, Upper Street had gardens. I mean, it was unknown
for most people to have a garden round here. Most people didnt
even have a separate bedroom, let alone a garden.
Unemployment
my dad only worked about six months of the year and then the rest
of the year he was on the dole, signing on every day. You got a
few shillings I think.
You were out of a work for a little while. Did affect him health-wise,
but he got over that. You imagine that they all were like that.
It affects you health-wise because you suddenly dont know youve
got no stable situation and youre jumping around from place to
place and youre looking and youre thinking youre going on as
casual labour they might call you on a Monday morning and say
youve got a weeks work. Or you might ring up on a Monday morning,
oh theres no work for you this week.